Leah Litman, 33, a regulation professor at the University of California at Irvine, mentioned she, equally, encountered Kozinski when they appeared collectively on a panel at her school in July to explore Supreme Court troubles. Rick Hasen, a University of California at Irvine professor who was at the supper, mentioned he recalled Kozinski producing a comment very similar to what Litman described, and the practical experience was "surreal.