So Mahiro Maeda, seeming not to want to go by himself, invited me to go with him. Mahiro Maeda was a scholar there, and he invited me to do the job with each other with him on Macross. Akai-san promptly gave up on it and returned to Osaka, but Yamaga-san and Anno-san remained guiding at Artland and aided out with Macross. I caught sight of Anno-san at Artland. During that period, I would from time to time catch sight of Anno-san.